WM – Chapter 240: The confusion of a certain Ancient Dragon

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• Uh.... what?

• Welp. Suddenly, a lot more makes sense.
  Makoto is actually the hero "Abel"
  "Abel" the hero who rode the dragon around is actually the holy maiden
  The holy maiden never had a kid with Abel because he suddenly disappeared was Makoto going back to the "present".
  The "holy dragon" helping them was because it got scared of Makoto...
  And the great sage who knew all this would happen, didn't tell anyone, because who would believe her?

  • Maybe it was to preserve the original story .

• Thanks for the chapter...

• Thanks for the chapter as always!!!

  • A miss translation?
    見・知・っ・た・女・性
    Shouldn't it be "a known woman"?

• Dude, who the hell made the prediction that Abel is a woman?? I remembered someone here made a predicition that Abel is a woman. Damn it, you're right on the spot.

  That mean...Abel in the picture book is actually Makoto and the real Abel turn into Anna??

  • I didn't read it, but considering what Reigokai had said until now and other things that I had personally seen, is plenty possible that the comment were a hidden spoiler actually, I could be wrong but well.

    • i didn read ahead but i also reach the conclusion that abel is anna base on someones comment regarding iblis is prophesied to reincarnate on that day because the cause of his demise did not return to the past till that particular day.

      Assuming history changes and makoto did not actually go to the past, then the cause of iblis demise become null....thus he "reincarnates". or lets just say he never died to begin with.

      so the extension of this conejcture is, makoto = abel due to reasoning of "cause of death"

      • I didn't understand half of what you said, but based in what I understood I don't see a reason to think that abel= anna, I mean, to this point is plenty obvious that the real Savior is Makoto but the history say is Abel because of history correction, in this point I seriously doubt someone believe that Makoto isn't the real Savior, but I don't get the logic that Abel don't been the real Savior mean that he is anna, more considering that it was already clearly said that he is a man.

  • I remember someone posting a comment about Ranma 1/2 so I had already an idea of what might happen, but there wasn’t any cold water just cold mana.
    Also is Annabel her... his? full name???

    • From her reaction, she is actually a woman from the very beginning and she's aware of it.

      It just that...she disguised herself as a man.

      • There's this line of "the body which looked slender before now becomes even smaller" implies that he did turn into a woman as opposed to being one from the start. So for whatever reason, he really did turn into a woman

    • Yeah, I'm commenting about the word that combine Anna and Abel and it got removed. I swear I'm not throwing spoiler though, it's just my theory. In the first place the idea that Abel is female already exist in the comment section since the first time(or second time?) Makoto meets her, I'm just expanding that idea and it got deleted

      • The problem is there's no clue at all that Anna and Abel were the same person at that point in time.
        If there's no good argument for it with information prior, I just HAVE to assume it is spoiler disguised as "theory".
        Saying Abel might be a girl was fine in my eyes, but saying Abel is Anna was a bit too sus for me.

        • The indirect confirmation Abel is Anna lol, bang goes my most recent theory.

    • I never posted it, but after time travel was mentioned I kinda just guessed Anna = Abel. By way of plot tropes. It's not that hard of a guess when you look at the previous things that were mentioned. *shrugs*

    • It could be side effect of whatever the holy dragon did to restore Abel. Holy Dragon>Holy Maiden, maybe? Judging from how there's no apparent trace of Anna as Abel childhood friend, it would be easy to assume that he's Anna, especially with the similarity with Noel

  • I think the statue was changing to become more Makoto like but that’s just my guess

    • That....would be funny if it really happened. Lmao

  • Depends on the timing. Those in the early part of this arc, also the end of previous arc, all were people who give spoilers. I believe they've been cleaned up.

    After we met Abel and get to know him a bit though? Almost everyone thinks that he's secretly a woman or can change genders, since his act is too girly.

    • Yeah...I also had a feeling that Abel is probably a girl, and I really wish for that not happened. I prefer to see a bromance between the past hero (Abel) and the future hero (Makoto).

      • I was hoping for Sakurai 2.0 myself. Bring some stories back to Sakurai to give him a confidence boost instead of just another harem member.

        • I know, right? I feel the same, man. Adding another harem is just boring. I would prefer to see more dynamic or connection between males, like Makoto and Fuji-yan or Makoto and Sakurai, but this time the dynamics between the two heroes from different eras.

  • I thought it would be funny if Abel was a woman dressed like a man, although I thought it incredibly unlikely. this technically isn't the same thing though, so I'm still very surprised.

• Not gonna lie... we all expected either that cause princess and holy maiden was sole person that wasnt mentioned anywhere

• !? Wait-, what!? Are you telling me that Abel is actually a girl or for some reason gender bender in some moments!? And that he is actually the Holy Maiden!? What th-, if is like that then that mean that Makoto would get two new harem members in the past, Momo and Holy Maiden Abel-chan, wow, that's weird, but I don't exactly dislike it.

  This make me think in the earlys chapters when various persons wondered if Noel would join the harem of Makoto, I suppose the respuest is a half-yes?

  • Abel must have bathed in a cursed spring during her childhood, so she turns into a woman when exposed to cold water... (Ranma 1/2 anyone ?)

    • Now that's old school. I prefer Maison Ikkoku, though.

    • Ranma 1/2? Whats that? 🤔

      • A manga where the main character turns into a girl upon exposure to cold water.

        • Ahh, wait cold water😂. That's kinda hilarious

        • Cold to become a girl, hot water to return to normal lol

    • @nathaniel Black: if you never read Ranma 1/2 you totally should!
      It's a really funny classic and I guess the origin of several tropes...
      Panda rules!

  • Well, people certainly seem to act as if fem!Abel is Anna. But I'm reminding folks here : no explicit confirmations yet. Still, the description of looking exactly like Noel is either a big hint or a red herring to end all red herring, so there's that.

    In any case, it's not likely that Abel is actually a girl under mundane disguise. If that was the case, Makoto should have noticed something while he's carrying the unconscious Abel to bed.

    Now the big question is : if fem!Abel really does end up in Makoto's harem, and she makes it to the present, what will happen? Because you know, that'd at least mean there's two Light Heroes now, and it's someone who look exactly like Princess Noel.

    • I called her Holy Maiden because of looking like Noel, and yeah, the change was something weird like some kind of magic/curse/disease, that or a really high level of disguise because until now he looked like a man and now suddenly look like a girl, I'm expecting the revelation next chapter.

      • Not calling you out specifically there. Just that lots of people seem to be thinking it's a given that fem!Abel is Anna in this whole comment section. Hints point there, certainly, but the author has pulled too many flips for anything implicit to be trustworthy, at least to me.

        • Meh, is true that it haven't be confirmed, but with all this is pretty difficult that Abel isn't the holy maiden,.

        • Yeah, with the girl reveal and her resemblance to Noel, I feel like it's now a better chance of her actually being Anna than not-other circumstances notwithstanding.

          Chalking it up as a coincidence makes no sense, but it's not like there aren't ways to explain it. Anyway, at this point my stance is that she's Anna and Noel's ancestor. Not set in stone, but new information will be challenging this assumption instead of Anna still being out there somewhere.

• Thanks for the chapter!

  And don’t forget the side story this time Rei-san! 😆

  • In this case is better to skip side story and add it later.

  • If Rei doesn't forget the side story..., strap in folks, we're in for a long cliff.

• Thanks for the chapter

• Thanks for the chapter~!
  Hey I'm kinda early

  Well, then we're going to the genderbender route. Some of you have already guessed Abel's identity correctly. No one's getting NTR-ed in the past, so just go for it, Makoto!

  And, just like how it's supposed to be, dragon bullying ensues. By the way, the dragon looking like very concerned about its age, so maybe we'll have female humanoid form.

  P.S: Those who have been waiting for the raw, we got new chapter yesterday. We're about, maybe 39 chapters to catch up

  • If Anna is added to the harem of Makoto, what happens to the Highland royal family ?
    Don't tell me that they are the descendants of Anna and Makoto. It would make Noel the descendant of Makoto. But Makoto is supposed to stay a virgin until the very end, so it shouldn't be possible. At the end, with whom Anna had children ? Who was her husband ? She definitely had children because Noel looks like her.

    About your theory Helemerk being the white wyvern of Sakurai, I find it interesting.

    • Or maybe she really is Anna’s reincarnation. She did say in her own opinion that she felt like she was Anna’s reincarnation. And Makoto losing his v-card wouldn’t happen since Noah-sama is the one who’s supposed to take it. (Go Noah-sama!)

    • I mean, looking exactly alike isn't a guarantee that Noel is indeed Anna's direct descendant or reincarnation. Lookalikes are a thing, even complete strangers can look like identical twins. And..., I dunno, isn't it possible that Anna really doesn't end up with Makoto? Though I suppose there's the concern of backlash. In any case there's a lot of things to be done if Anna is to end up with Makoto, especially with the implicit requirement of keeping her virginity for Makoto.

      The big one is the question about Highland's royalty, as mentioned. They'd have to be at most only somewhat related to Anna. Maybe from one of her relatives (there's no mention on whether or not she has relatives, Schrödinger's Relatives!) Or maybe through some divine intervention she's given a child to raise as her own to be the next king, in which case the part where Noel look exactly alike can be explained away as the first heir to Highland's throne being a literal designer baby.

      Or maybe the Highland's Royalty is really just somewhat related to Anna, and they've been undergoing an extensive eugenics project to legitimize themselves, would line up with their eagerness to snap up Sakurai too. In any case, lots of implications.

      Man, at least in Death March there was no Mito lookalike, so the explanation can be a quick "I adopted him."

      • Don’t ask me that @archeisse. I know you’ve read the raws.

        • Then I can tell you exactly that until now, the raws still has no answer for that. So my question is legit.

        • An honestly, that wasn't directed at you, but more to @savioroffrance. Still, I have to ask : how'd you reply to my comment up there? I can't seem to reply to comments beyond the second level. Are you using the WordPress app or desktop or something else?

        • I’m using hacks (Wordpress app).

    • I'm not saying that wyvern is Helemerk

      I'm saying since that is a normal white wyvern and not Helemerk, perhaps Helemerk is in the middle of training somewhere in preparations for fighting the present Great Demon King

      Also, might be since it only allowed original party members and Makoto to ride on its back

      • I misunderstood , my bad. Still, it would a relief if there was someone at the side of Momo to alleviate her solitude while waiting for 1,000 years.

        • I mean, Momo can still visit them from time to time. that's why I brought up Makoto's death and ascension to Water Spirit King when fighting Alex.

          Momo wasn't in the capital at the time but checking up on Forneus instead right? My guess is that she might've gone not only to not interfere with the supposed fates, but also to hold herself back and visiting an old friend in training.

        • What you are saying seems rather plausible and interesting.

          It would be interesting to have a side story of Momo in the present about her first meeting with Makoto, her reaction when Makoto died or her feelings when Makoto left for the Dark Era.

          There are many people who are throwing theories about how Makoto will become back. (Coffin, Spirits of Time, etc)

          However, at the end, we all know that Makoto will somehow be able to come back to the present, so the method isn't that important.

          What matters if there are other people who will come to the present aside from Makoto. There are people who speculates that it is actually Anna who is in the coffin.

        • I'm one of those people who thinks Anna will follow him. At first, I think it'd be Abel due to bromance. Then we got this reveal, so it doesn't actually matter which one since Abel/Anna were one and the same.

          Remember, to save Sakurai you need someone that can use revive to standby beside him. Noel can use revive. If there's Anna, you can use her as a substitute for Noel's original position in the battlefield, so Noel can be on standby beside Sakurai. Or Anna is the one who's on standby for better damage dealing against Iblis since she wields double hero skills too.

          Out of all major allied character in the past, we can predict their fates somehow. Momo is still alive. Helemerk is definitely too, since its a long lived dragon though we never met it in the future. Johnny died of natural causes. Abel-Anna is the only mortal who have the incentives to chase after Makoto.

          The rest would be Cain and the past Moon Oracle. If Makoto manages to befriend Cain, he might chase after him out of loyalty to free Noah.

          We never heard anything about the Moon Oracle so far, but remember Tsui? She might lose to Makoto and cursed or reincarnated as a cat for atonement, might explain how fast it was attached to Furi too. Though I'm still heavily leaning on "Naia's critter that she uses for spying on the mortal realm" theory.

    • About Highland royal lineage:

      1. The lineage is a lie. Anna got someone adopted. Noel's resemblance is just total coincidence

      2. She switched to Abel and mate with a random girl. Might or might not have direct body contact (e.g. merely donating sperm)

      • These are interesting possibilities. I think there was someone who mentioned something about cloning. What do you think of it ?

        For Noel's eesemblance, it could just be isekai/fantasy logic. A pure coincidence or Noel might really be her descendant and look really like Anna just because of that said logic.

        • Cloning is the least possible one, but there's a possibility. Let's hold back this speculation for now since we only got details either next chapter (if reigokai didn't skip intermission this time) or the one after.

          Yeah, I too believed Noel's resemblance is merely a coincidence or a red herring. Since I still believed the reason why Makoto were given Anna is because author wants to give Noel as a waifu but without NTR-ing Sakurai.

          Our MC needs to have ALL the princess

  • "maybe we’ll have female humanoid form"

    To the tune of Never gonna give you up.

    "You know the tropes, and so do I"