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“I understand… Makoto-kun pushed away my serious emotions of the several millions of lives that I have been entrusted with. From what I was shown, I felt like he was a lot more scary than that Goddess.” (Hibiki)
After Makoto left from the passage, Hibiki was left alone.
A self-depreciating mutter came from her mouth.
“I am seriously the type that stumbles when it counts the most.” (Hibiki)
The fight with Io.
Remembering the invitations she did to Mio and Lime, Hibiki makes a wry smile.
She felt as if the important things were slipping from her hands, an irritating feeling.
The wind passes in between the fingers of her opened hand.
She felt as if it was a feeling similar to this.
Her self-depreciation continued.
“If we lose to the demon race, that’s the end; if we lose in the war against Tomoki, it will be the end as well; and if Makoto-kun goes haywire, it will be the end too huh. What an incredible situation. The last one has a narrow chance of hope though. A world without the Goddess huh… Thinking about the current state, it will most definitely become a warring era with the flood of the small countries, so it wouldn’t change the fact that it will be despairing.” (Hibiki)
A disastrous image appears in the mind of Hibiki, and disappears.
Winning against the demon race, shutting the Empire, and on top of that, restrain Makoto with something aside from power.
After doing all that would Hibiki finally be able to begin with her objective.
Just like what she said about it being an incredible situation, it is practically close to impossible.
Even so, Hibiki can’t just withdraw.
“Even so, I have to do my best till the end. Believing in me, many have died. For the sake of my objective, I have killed many. There’s also people like Naval that have sacrificed themselves. I can’t give up. I have to struggle.” (Hibiki)
As an awakened one from the world transfers, she has obtained the ability to change the conception of others into power.
Because of that point as well, she is aware of the innumerable cord-like feelings that have been placed on her.
The lives that have been entrusted to her, and the lives she has taken away; while having those in mind, Hibiki fights.
Hibiki felt that she has the obligation to do her best until the last moment of her life.
That’s why she can’t just push them aside.
Even if the other party is someone with power that can easily cut apart those feelings.
“Seriously…being a hero is quite the worthwhile position.” (Hibiki)
For Hibiki, the Goddess is the person that has provided her with this environment.
That’s why Hibiki feels a set amount of gratitude towards her.
But that’s all there’s to it.
Hibiki’s impresion of her was like that of the first person that had found her.
Sadly to say, she is a type that is hard to respect as a superior, and there’s several problems with her as well.
But as a numerical value, she provides benefits, so it is someone that can’t be cut off and there’s no choice but to just accept it.
It is something like that.
Thinking until there, Hibiki sighs.
“Hah…If I could change the religion I am shouldering, I think it would be easier to have Makoto-kun instead of the Goddess. Even if he were to be treated as a God, by using the front of worshipping, it can be hidden in many ways. But even when he said such outrageous things, the only strong reactions I got from him were with the Goddess, and…his discrimination towards hyumans. He doesn’t have a purpose. That boy doesn’t even have the intention of founding a nation. If he at least had something like that…” (Hibiki)
Hibiki could tell that the options for the future would increase a lot.
If Makoto were to become a king, if he were to announce that he would be founding a nation, the hyumans and demons wouldn’t be able to ignore it.
Because it would be a big problem that would force them to even stagnate this hatred-filled war in order to deal with it.
Anyone that has seen his power would be able to tell.
Because it would mean that a country that surpasses all the currently existing countries in military power will be born all of a sudden.
At the very least, in the time that Makoto and his close aides are alive, they wouldn’t be able to enter a full-out war without that country, is what Hibiki thought.
“He doesn’t have the intentions to become a king or a God either. Because of that, his inability for authority is unconsciously showing, and thinks that the Goddess is an enemy of equal ground. I seriously don’t understand him…” (Hibiki)
Hibiki’s waist falls to the ground.
Hibiki sits in the cold corridor.
“My legs gave out…but that’s a given, right? If I made a mistake, I might have ended up dead cold right now at this place. Not only my spirit, even my body was enduring the fear huh.” (Hibiki)
An absolute strength.
Currently for Hibiki, that’s exactly what Misumi Makoto is.
The moment those straining feelings loosened, Hibiki’s body reminded her that.
What she wanted to ask, her invitation, and also, the confrontation she feared.
For Hibiki, the conversation just now was something she challenged with the feelings of standing on thin ice.
(He is already not in a dimension where I can think of him in human standards. Earthquake, tsunami, eruption, tornado…he is close to those. Fighting against him is not that realistic, but…as long as it is someone that moves with a will, I can’t ignore it. Seriously, he has become quite the monster.) (Hibiki)
Hibiki then notices.
That within herself, two things began to bother her.
The first one is something that she had already expected.
They were her own emotions after all.
(Then why I don’t obey him? If it’s just in military power, he surpasses that of a country; a monster in the skin of a human. No matter what Limia tries to do, they probably wouldn’t be able to beat him. Then there should be no other choice but to curry his favor, and yet…) (Hibiki)
The lights of the land near the castle she was looking at were few, and as she saw them grow sparse, Hibiki sunk into silence.
(…I see. It is hatred. I can’t forgive the demon race. They have burned many villages, killed many hyumans, and also my comrade…Naval as well. Ah, maybe that’s why.) (Hibiki)
Hibiki nodded a few times.
Facing your own emotions and controlling them.
It is something important, but difficult to do.
When those emotions turn so natural that they seemer deep into yourself, it becomes even harder to do.
Overcoming the death of a comrade is also a different matter.
Hibiki finally understood why she didn’t choose to completely curry favor on Makoto.
(Of course, I have killed many of them as well. Within them, there should have been people with comrades, family, and lovers. Even so, I hate the demon race. I see…so this is how it feels to be a concerned party. Is the hatred of war something so troublesome?) (Hibiki)
Hibiki was surprised that within her deepest self, hatred towards the demon race had piled up.
It is true that the demon race is the enemy, and there’s no doubt that they are a hateful enemy, but she didn’t know that it was binding her this much.
Since she thought she had it somewhat under control, this was shocking.
(To curry the favor of Makoto-kun, I would have to affirm his ideals even if it is only on the outside. In other words, it would become hard to continue the war. That’s why I…) (Hibiki)
In other words, she wished for the continuation of the war.
With her hand covering her mouth, Hibiki’s pair of eyes opened wide.
(That’s why I can’t. I want to bring down my enemy. That’s right. Until I kill Io, I…) (Hibiki)
Thinking about the reason why she wanted the war to continue, she reached an answer.
In the end, it was an incredibly personal reason, and Hibiki was amazed of herself.
Even though it was not funny at all, she felt a laugh coming out from within her throat.
After a while, the laughing stopped, but Hibiki didn’t stand up and was sitting just like that.
She was thinking about the other thing that was bothering her.
(I…what did I feel a sense of discomfort in? The moment I thought of Makoto-kun as a monster, I certainly felt it… Right, ‘refuge’! He said that when the world goes into chaos and turns into an End of the Century era, they could just go take refuge for a while. Why is there a need to take refuge? There’s no doubt that the world will fall into great chaos if the Goddess is defeated. But it is not a situation where individuals with power or organizations would take refuge. If it’s the Kuzunoha Company, it is realistically possible to even be able to become the number one company. But he said that he would be taking refuge.) (Hibiki)
That word coming from someone strong made Hibiki feel a sense of discomfort.
(Just that, when it comes from the mouth of Makoto, it doesn’t feel that strange. Refuge huh. A safe place. In other words, he has a place where no matter if the world has fallen into chaos, he is able to secure safety. That wouldn’t be his store. In the variant incident at Rotsgard, the Kuzunoha Company’s store was destroyed. Also, Rotsgard and Tsige won’t be spared from the chaos.) (Hibiki)
Hibiki lists out the places where Makoto has connections with.
Because she wanted to grasp even if a little bit more information of Makoto and his tendencies.
(! There is. The place that he arrived in when he came to this world. The border of the world. If he has a base in the deepest parts of that wasteland, it would signify that it is safe. They would be able to cut themselves away and live peacefully for years. For him who doesn’t think about calming the chaos himself, it is plenty possible.) (Hibiki)
She digs out the memory she had of Tsige where she went to train temporarily in.
She tries to remember as many stories of bases in the wasteland as possible.
And then, she arrives at one answer.
In the first place, those kind of talks are rare, and by elimination process, it was plenty possible to arrive at ‘that’ place.
“…The Mirage Town. I don’t want to think it is possible, but could it be, that’s the base of Makoto-kun -of the Kuzunoha Company?” (Hibiki)
A Mirage Town that a few number in Tsige have heard of.
In the end, Hibiki returned to Limia without going to that town.
But the more she thought about it, the closer she felt the relation between Kuzunoha Company and that Mirage Town.
“A mirage town located somewhere in the wasteland. If that’s his base, his first store being in Tsige begins to look like a splendid decoy. The wasteland is his base and has set up a store at Tsige. That’s right, if he already had a base by the time he left the wasteland and entered Tsige…” (Hibiki)
Hibiki noticed one other scary thing.
Her words stop unconsciously.
(For a base, the wasteland is just far. WAY too far! A base needs to be in a place where one can return in a short amount of time. His Majesty and prince Joshua said this when they returned from Rotsgard, that they have broken the long distance teleportation that the Kuzunoha Company was relying on… That’s a lie. It hasn’t been broken. They don’t use the merchant transportation method to ‘return’, they have in their hands a stable long-distance teleportation. Because they are able to take refuge after all.) (Hibiki)
Hibiki doesn’t know of Asora.
She does know that there’s a mirage town somewhere in the vast border of the world.
It would be impossible for her to be able to predict a parallel space, so even if it’s not a perfect correct answer, it was a guess that was close to what Makoto’s base is.
(If he is able to do business in this world while ignoring distance completely, it would be logical how he is able to have a store and has allowance to do peddling around the whole world. Yeah. Kuzunoha Company is like the Goddess, if I were to consider them an existence living on a different plane altogether… They declared that they didn’t have interest in the war, so there’s many ways to deal with this.) (Hibiki)
Hibiki thinks about how she will be interacting with the Kuzunoha Company.
At the same time, she was estimating the way to progress in the war with the demon race.
(It is slightly different from the request of Waterfall, but if I have Makoto-kun compromise that he won’t be destroying the world, it is still salvageable. If we are able to bring the advantages of Kuzunoha Company and him to the hyumans…next, as long as the demon race does a big move in the time that the Goddess is still okay, there’s the chance that it will turn advantageous for us. But well, the demon race is also hostile to the Goddess, so there’s not much for me to worry about in this part huh.)
Hibiki stands up.
She walks towards the opposite direction of the passage that Makoto walked away in.
Even when she knew Kuzunoha Company’s power to a certain degree, her eyes didn’t show the light of giving up, it reflected strength.
Makoto and Hibiki’s conversation, and Hibiki’s monologue. That one act had ended.
At one of the castle’s spires pretty far away from the passage, one shadow was sitting there.
It is the roof portion of the spire that shouldn’t have people to begin with.
The girl that was eavesdropping at the whole conversation of Makoto and Hibiki, first smiled with her mouth, and it spread all the way to her eyes.
“Ufufufu, a breakdown. That’s a given-desu. Waka-sama and Hibiki’s way of thinking about the current state was simply coincidentally similar after all. It has gone well.”
Makoto’s follower, Mio.
Mio had created a flow where it would lead to Makoto and Hibiki’s conversation, and induced it.
But she didn’t manipulate the result, and didn’t interfere in it either.
Mio was able to read to a certain degree what was going to happen if they were to clash their opinions.
“When I heard Tomoe-san’s assessment of Hibiki, it came to me. That it would be fine; that Waka-sama and her are not compatible. It is Hibiki who doesn’t know of what’s beneath, and Waka-sama who, in a sense, only looks from beneath. It was an obvious result-desu.” (Mio)
The assessment Mio heard from Tomoe.
It is something that even now Hibiki isn’t aware of, a subconscious part.
From what Tomoe said: Hibiki doesn’t know of the standing of the weak.
What Tomoe said of Hibiki was that: ‘She doesn’t understand the standing of the absolute weak. Because that girl believes that if they do their best, they will be able to bring about results-ja. No matter how they struggle it will be for naught, she doesn’t know that there are people that can only be weak. Well, she herself can do anything she tries to do, so since she is young, thinking that way can’t be helped~’.
And in truth, that’s what Hibiki thinks.
If you try till death, people will be able to bring about some results.
Of course, there’s many people in reality that can bring about ‘some’ results, but in society, there’s also a part that can’t do anything no matter what they try.
Not only the environment and the talent, there’s also cases where there’s external pressure they can’t go against.
But Hibiki, who clearly has not been a concerned party of these cases and even in Earth was born in a blessed household in Japan and with high talent, speaking about how much she understands of the current state, just like how Tomoe said, it is a part that can’t be helped.
On the other hand, Makoto doesn’t hold the point of view of a strong one.
Even in the parts of position and responsibility, he doesn’t understand in what stage he should be standing in.
Without any jokes and exaggeration, a responsibility that fits the strength of Makoto would be to act while thinking about the whole world in itself.
“It is because the more she learns, the more she doesn’t understand. That’s why, Hibiki is cautious towards Waka-sama. And so, because she is unable to bring him in, what they are trying to do is to exclude Waka-sama as much as possible from the war. But Waka-sama won’t consent.” (Mio)
Mio was laughing in a truly gleeful manner.
The figure of Mio laughing simple-mindedly below the moonlight felt like it had madness drifting about, and a dangerous beauty.
“That’s because Waka-sama doesn’t care if it’s hyuman of demi-human after all. He would help out the demi-humans that are troubled, but that’s all. What’s important for that personage is his own circle. And from the hyumans that I have seen, there was an abundance of idiots, so his preference turned into demi-humans, that’s all. It is so simple, and yet…everyone can’t understand it. That’s just strange-desu wa.” (Mio)
Mio looks at the true character of Makoto in that way.
That’s correct.
That’s why Makoto is still involving himself with hyumans, and at the same time, he has turned into a point where he can’t hold a wider field of vision no matter how much time passes.
“It is impossible to not get involved in the war. If there’s people troubled coming from it, Waka-sama will act. There’s no way he would think about what would happen in the future or the troublesome things that might come. There’s no need to match the pace of Hibiki who only thinks about big things like the future, the world. In the first place, that’s all empty dreams. Waka-sama most likely noticed it with this. To begin with, future things should be thought by the people of the future-desu wa. No matter what Waka-sama who lives in the present does, no matter what happens to the world because of it, it is simply an unavoidable destiny for the people that will be born later.” (Mio)
She once again voices out an unreasonable logic.
But Mio originally doesn’t care for anyone other than Makoto.
That’s why, for her. what makes Makoto happy is the correct thing to do.
If the noise is getting unbearable and her master is troubled, she wants to remove the seed of that distress.
The actions of Mio this time, were simply because of that.
Just that, Makoto takes in mind his surroundings way too much, to the point of overdoing it.
That’s why Mio moved slightly indirectly.
“The hyumans, the demons, and that one above, are really annoying. Waka-sama is saying that he doesn’t have any interest, so you should just go kill among yourselves as much as you want in a place that Waka-sama’s eyes don’t reach-desu. Seriously.” (Mio)
Mio disappearing from the spire, and those words, were done at almost the same time.
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“Eh? Isn’t that Priestess-san -ah no, Priestess-sama?”
“…”
Before arriving at my room, I encountered an unexpected person.
One member of Senpai’s party, the priestess of Lorel. If I remember correctly…her name was Chiya.
She looks like she is the same age as Rinon, so she is probably 12-13.
Even though it is already pretty late in the night, she was standing there as if lying in wait for me.
Her attire is also probably not the one she uses when going to sleep.
“Ehm…do you have business with me?” (Makoto)
She maintained her silence, but I ask her who has been staring at me all this time.
“I am the priestess of Lorel, my name is Chiya. First of all, I want to apologize for my impoliteness. I am very sorry.” (Chiya)
She lowers her head deeply.
The 90° type, the one that bends the body a lot.
“You suddenly collapsed, so please don’t mind it too much. I have heard a bit of the circumstances after all. Uhm, I would be happy if you were to tell me what you can about what you saw though.” (Makoto)
“It is not only for the matter of me collapsing. In the time of the dinner, I was unable to take part in it, not even once.” (Chiya)
“Your physical condition was not good, so it didn’t affect my mood. It is something that can’t be helped.” (Makoto)
It is true that in the dinners, I was together with Senpai and prince Joshua a lot, but I haven’t been together with the priestess once.
In one instance, there was clearly a seat prepared for her and even the meal was prepared, and yet, she didn’t come.
At that time, it was a probably a ‘maybe’ case, but if her condition is not good, there should be no responsibility taken in not being able to attend to a dinner. Even when she is this young, she is quite the level-headed girl.
“Thank you very much. My impoliteness can be taken as the impoliteness of Lorel, so it is great that you say that.” (Chiya)
But she is so stiff.
It is not an atmosphere fitting her age.
This is not something that requires an apology, but it is certainly true that what she saw interests me.
About what she saw that could make a girl like this lose herself and faint.
“…”
That’s why I stay silent and wait for her next words.
“I rudely tried to peek into the true nature of you and your Kuzunoha Company’s entourage. Even if it’s my power as a priestess, it is an action that wouldn’t be helped if you were to scorn me. If you so wish to, it might be my duty to give you the answer of that result.” (Chiya)
“No well, I don’t really scorn you or anything…” (Makoto)
In the first place, it is something that Senpai made you do.
Also, if a girl of her age were to get the power to see inside others, I don’t think it would be strange to want to use it.
Well, the Priestess-san doesn’t fit that much into the kids of her age though.
“What I saw in Lime was a gentle large tree. Lush leaves wet in rain were glittering, and…maybe it was making it its dwelling? The young figure of a dragon was visible. I don’t know if it’s a hint to something, but I felt like he was a likeable person. That’s how I viewed it.” (Chiya)
A gentle large tree.
And a young dragon huh.
I see.
So it is true that she can see things only she can.
But it comprises many truths. There’s a high chance that it truly touches their essence.
“Mio-san was…a big black spider. The Calamity Spider. Around its neck there was a big choker, and that spider looked like it was lovingly caring for that choker that had a chain attached to it.” (Chiya)
So it saw through Mio’s true identity perfectly huh.
But a choker…
That’s probably hinting at the pact.
In that case…this girl saw that chain connected to me?
“Yeah. There’s a lot regarding Mio. As you can see, she is no longer the rampaging monster with no sense of sanity. In most cases, she is safer than in the past so…” (Makoto)
“…No matter if I make a racket about it, I have already reached the conclusion that the situation won’t change for the better anyways. Please don’t mind it.” (Chiya)
“I see…that’s great.” (Makoto)
“And, you were…a pure white hyuman-shaped form with no features.” (Chiya)
Something like a white doll?
No, I don’t think that’s all there’s to it.
It is not something to collapse for.
“A white hyuman shape with no facial features huh. Once again, I don’t know what it means.” (Makoto)
“Sorry. I have awakened this power just recently, so I still can’t accurately grasp the meaning of the things that I see.” (Chiya)
“No, I wasn’t blaming you.” (Makoto)
“Just that, that white hyuman shape had a crack. A small crack.” (Chiya)
“A crack?” (Makoto)
“At that part…… Sorry. At that part, in my eyes, it looked like…there was something incredibly repulsive dwelling there.” (Chiya)
Repulsive is quite the word.
Leaving aside my outward appearance, is this the route where it is telling me that even my true nature is ugly?
Something like this really depresses me.
“Was it something so repulsive that it made you collapse?” (Makoto)
“I don’t know. I didn’t looking straight at it for long after all.” (Chiya)
“I see…” (Makoto)
“…”
“…”
“Please! There’s probably nothing I can do, but…! Please…don’t bring that ‘thing’ outside! If you call yourself a merchant, please!!” (Chiya)
“Uo, ehm, please calm down a bit.” (Makoto)
When I thought there was a short silence, the Priestess-san draws closer as if she had lost it.
Moreover, what she asked me to do is something I have no way of doing anything about.
In the first place, what is ‘that’?
Something that not even I know myself, there’s no way I would be able to control if it comes out or not, you know?
While trying to somehow calm the Priestess-san, I was troubled by the request that I was unable to nod at.
The Priestess-san that had returned to herself, was heaving with her shoulders going up and down while having a tension-filled face. Because of the same reason, her whole body was still stiff.
“I-I am very sorry.” (Chiya)
“Uhm, I don’t understand it well, but I will do my best, so it would be better if you didn’t pay much mind to it. You might have seen something dangerous, but it seems like it isn’t showing you the future or anything like that.” (Makoto)
“I heard this from Onee— I mean, Hibiki-sama, but she said that you don’t hold a religious belief towards the Goddess? Ah, it is not like I am condemning you. For the sake of future reference, can I hear about what you rely on, whether it be in the Spirit-samas or in the studies, and the teachings and thoughts you hold?” (Chiya)
“Hah? The teachings and thoughts?” (Makoto)
“Yes. The teachings of the Goddess, the teachings of the four elemental Spirits that are born from those, and the truth that a number of scholars have arrived at in their studies. Those kind of things.” (Chiya)
“…I don’t have those. I don’t have much interest in religion, even so, if told that science is everything, I also think that’s not the case. What I rely on huh. Hmm….” (Makoto)
“…”
The Priestess-san looks at me and was dumbfounded.
Maybe she thought she would get some sort of thoughts of mine immediately.
That’s just unreasonable.
“Well, I do have experience in an art called archery that has created some rules inside myself. Are you fine with that?” (Makoto)
“Please let me hear them.” (Chiya)
“It is not something complicated or anything like that. It is to do what you have decided to do with your own power. It is something that you have decided to do, so don’t rely on someone else, and adhere to it with your own discipline. It is quite vague in many points, but it is something like that. But in truth, there’s only one thing that I have decided myself to do though.” (Makoto)
“What would that be?” (Chiya)
Maybe she is used to listening to the talk of others, it feels like this Priestess-san is easy to speak with.
…One of the reasons might be because she is a kid though.
“To continue with the bow. In the future, no matter what path I take, no matter what employment I have, no matter what place I end up living in, I have decided to continue with the bow for the rest of my life. That’s all there is.” (Makoto)
“…I see. To continue doing something, no matter what it is, it will require strong will. It may be difficult, but I think it is a splendid thought.” (Chiya)
“Thanks. I feel like I am being comforted though.” (Makoto)
“When you decide you will do it, you will definitely do it…” (Chiya)
“Priestess-sama? By the way, how are you feeling? If you are still not feeling well, I can provide you with medicine just in case.” (Makoto)
“Wah? ah…I-It’s okay.” (Chiya)
“I see. In that case, it is already late, so how about returning to your room? If you need to, I can accompany you partway.” (Makoto)
“I will return by myself. I am grateful for your consideration. Sorry for intruding so late in the night. Have a good night.” (Chiya)
“Good night.” (Makoto)
How old was the girl I was talking to?
That’s the kind of impression I had remaining even now.
“Ah, Boss. Welcome back. The priestess was here a while ago, you know. Didn’t you meet her on the way?” (Lime)
“Yeah, I did. That girl, she came alone to this room huh.” (Makoto)
“Yeh, she said she wanted to apologize to Boss. I told her that you are not someone who would mind that, and that I would tell you when you come back, so she should return and sleep, but she didn’t listen.” (Lime)
“I see. Well, the talk felt similar to that, Gentle Large Tree-san.” (Makoto)
“Hah?” (Lime)
“The white featureless one will go to sleep now. Good night.” (Makoto)
“Okay…Good night, Boss.” (Lime)
The day of leaving Limia is close.
The home of Hibiki-senpai, the Limia Kingdom.
I did think that it was somewhat comfortable, but…it became a lot more tiresome visit than I expected.
I don’t have the power to think about the future of the country and the world in whole like Senpai does.
I can’t even understand individuals well, so there’s no way I would be able to understand hundreds of wills, and the country that is like the crystallization of the race’s will.
The Demon Lord, Senpai, and the Kings of each nation probably understand those things though.
But I who can’t even grasp the circumstances and tendencies of my company employees, this is just a heavy talk.
I can’t do it, but I should at least make an effort huh.
I should try to pursue what I can do.
When I return to Asora, I should try speaking with Tomoe and Shiki about it. Ah, when I return, I should show myself in Kaleneon.
….After that, a small talk with Zef…
Because I was doing some thinking, or more like, a lot happened and it is already this late of an hour, my thoughts were cut off in the middle.
Drowsiness is the best.
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Would Makoto be like Hibiki if he was put in Lima and treated like a hero?
seeing what happened with makotwo (tomoki's dream), he would have slaughtered demon race by sense of duty, and would mind much about it.
*wouldn't
Feels the terror of no edit comment section!
Btw I already forgot what happens to that Makoto in the end ?
damn no edit...
he just killed the demon race out of sense of duty for tomoki's saving him and in lily's name. once he ended, he started a fight with tomoki and nuke country into desert to pick a fight with the goddess
my point is I don't think he would have minded that much the situation. since he said he would help, he would kill demons and that's all.
the makotwo ? it end with Hibiki getting microwaved and then Shiva just use Mahakala form and destroy that universe
makotwo is the one appearing in the dream with tomoki I think.
well i count it as Makoto (the Primary one right now) Makotwo (the first dream with hibiki microwaving), and count on
Duty? It was a first step in destroying the world and a revenge for a princess.
I was under the impression that makoto put up with tomoki's shit for so long only because he saved him.
I am not sure about that, he inded killed the demon in that case because of sence of duty. But it was from being saved after wandering alone in the wasteland for quite some time if I remember correctly. Anyone would have a strong attachement to the one who saved them even more if they are the first one you meet in a foreign world.
The way I view makoto in the case of a sumoning to save limia would be 'Mee... I didn't ask for it, leave me be' he would have been discarded as a failed hero. But well if the godess didn't throw him off to the wasteland and properly powered him uop he might be more enclined to help.
Makoto was always show with a strong loyalty and respect for order and hierachy, I don't think once he accepted to be a hero (with tsukuyomi) he would go back on his words.
and if he ran away there was still the chance that a sister would be summoned to take his place as a hero. making him more likely to follow the hero's role. he accepted to avoid that case to begin with.
Everyone's forgetting "where" Makoto ended up in that dream... Gritonia, meaning...Lily
In her POV she wished that Makoto was the one that became Gritonia's hero, instead of Trashmoki and since Makoto was already stronger than Trashmoki even back then, what do you think she would've done?
Her wish was to see the world of the goddess burn, so there is no doubt that she would've manipulated and used Makoto just like she had done with Trashmoki. Look how that idiot ended up...
don't push every problem into lily, in other time line he still coldly took the genocide road and killed people the same way he did, she didn't play a big role in makoto's devellopement.
and it's unrelated to the fact that he is loyal.
Indeed I forgot his promise.
He would comply, but I don't know... the way he his, I can't see him having the 'Hero Aura'. Would he change to a someone shouldering hope of a whole country, race...
He might just do what he is ask to, I need to reread the first chapter but are the hero asked to kill all demon or just to help hyuman stop the war and win back the land lost ? If it's the later I don't see him go on a full blown demon eradication path.
But well he is kinda like a child, treating well those who treat him well. Being treated well enough by limia might make him constitute a 'familly'. Losing a companion/familly member like Hibiki did, he might turn into a mindless killer like in the dream where he lose his folowers.
It is just that the idea of him as a 'regular' hero is too foreign to me ^^
I understand… Makoto-kun pushed away my serious emotions of the several millions of lives that I have been entrusted with.
More like
I understand... Makoto-kun pushed away my willingness to oppose and enslave a whole race of people simply because they have nothing to do with me.
Frankly I hate her more than tomoki, at least he doesn't pretend that he's selfless and righteous.
yeah, a big shit on a plate is better than a badly cooked meal, because at least it's not trying to look good.
That part also make me... huh ? What the hell ? When did he say that, you bitch ? And what about several millions of others that you want to enslave you damn hypocrite bitch.....
and honestly it's time to put an end to the point "tomoki is better than hibiki because at least he doesn’t pretend that he’s selfless and righteous." that is totally wrong
chap 88:
“Just like how Lily said before, I am a hero. I am fighting for the sake of this world. Defeat the demon lord and after that I will create a peaceful world. Tomoe-san, for that sake, please lend us your power” (Tomoki)
he is exactly what you reproach to hibiki.
redcolonel I honestly think that you should reread the whole thing.
1) for Tomoki comrads is something that you protect with your life and don't kill even if you don't like them (dream and fight dragon slayer)
for Hibiki comrads is something that you discard and backstab when you can get profit from it.
2) Tomoki was brainwashed by Lily into doing bad things.
Hibiki wasn't brainwashed by anybody.
p.s. your quote is just a commercial, why did you even bringing it here?
I think you are the one who should reread the whole thing
1) tomoki only see his comrades as toy, proven against sophia when he said he wanted to recruit her (add her to his harem), the other girls objected but he didn't give a damn about their opinions, he probably doesn't even know the girls outside of his bed (what they likes, their personality, etc...). they are his fuckable meat bags
same when he tried to trade tomoe against 3 of his meat bags (AKA Valkyries) saying they would do whatever he want.
he doesn't care so much about the girls, but he will cry if someone break his toys.
2) no, he didn't 'fall'. he said it itself (in the dream) the princess is the first one he charmed (as he though).
the first thing he did was to charm (mind controle) the princess and fuck her.
It's just who he is
PS if tomoki can use the 'hero and savior statut' as "commercial", why is it so bad that hibiki act as a 'hero and savior' to gain followers? same thing.
Tomoki was a lil shit before the summoning and stayed a lil shit after the summoning
the major difference between Tomoki and hibiki is
Hibiki is the cool and charismatic person excelling at everything at that people hate because of envy
Tomoki is a weak willed loner that people find easier to identify to,
and end up loving him more for that.
@omfg
You have quite a high opinion of Tomoki, it seems. The way you phrase it, it's almost like he has no responsibility for the actions he took.
No one twisted his arm to make him become a hero. He saw it as a means to satisfy his base desires, nothing more.
He was offered gifts that spoke to him. Invincibility at night when the moon is out, because he's afraid of getting hurt (not that there's anything wrong with that in itself, but it's not exactly heroic either). And the ability to make others obey his every whim. Absolute obedience through the gift of Charm.
While the first gift is fine, the second one is not something a real hero would want. To rob someone of their individuality is the same as killing that person. That's right, "hero" Tomoki has been killing Hyumans left and right with great abandon, just to satisfy his own desires. I don't know about you, but to me a hero is someone who puts the needs and lives of others before their own.
And he wasn't brainwashed. He was seduced. Which are two different things. He knew exactly what he was doing. His upbringing would have taught him that it's at best a questionable action. His ability to think rationally was not impeded. It's just that he never stopped to think whether it was the right thing to do. He simply did it because it felt good.
As for your points:
1) For Tomoki, his "comrades" are simply his precious possessions. If he truly cared about them, he would want them to care about him because they chose to, not because they were made to. The reason he "cares" so much about their well-being is because he's possessive. The way people can be possessive about their new car, or their collection of figurines.
2) Already mentioned it, but no he wasn't. Unless I remember incorrectly, in which case, please tell me about when in the story it was implied that he is being brainwashed (not necessarily the specific chapters, just the arc will do).
I hate Tomoki, but he is being slightly manipulated by Lily, after makoto left that country and lily went to see Tomoki, he told her that makoto was strong and hit his face, Lily used that fact to manipulate him into wanting to become strong by doing more dangerous experiments on him at the risk of his life. After that he would take Tomoe away from makoto and make him suffer, she did this so that at the end she would use him to kill the goddess. Also you said that in the dream he thought the charm worked on her... exactly it didnt and he thinks it did, shes been manipluting him this whole time, a very basic method to manipulating someone is to make them think your on their side. Not saying shes in absolute control of him, but he will do as she says at key moments.
you missed the point: he though the charm worked on her, and she was the first slave, that mean he made her his slave BEFORE she manipulate him.
the fact that it failed is unrelated to the matter.
without lily, tomoki would still be like that. maybe not as extreme as now, but he wouldn't be a great guy.
So, no, don't try to cleanse him by pushing every fault into lily.
How is the fact the charm not working on her not related, the fact it didnt work means she can manipluate him, but im sure youll misinterpret what im saying. I honestly thought i didnt have to clarify my self, but I guess I do, I never said Tomoki is not to blame for the things his done, your right in saying that he is who he is, and the fact that he is brainwashing people into doing things against their will pisses me off to no end and I wish he dies a painful death. The only thing I stated was that he is being maniplulate by Lily, that is a fact. When I said "he will do as she says at key moments" I meant in moments similar to during a battle, because he trusts that she has his best interest in mind because he thinks shes brainwashed, and because of this if she told him to kill the goddess he will do it. Not trying to cleanse Tomoki, I have just been trying to say that in one way or another he is being manipluate ever so slightly in the way he thinks.
okay, I misunderstood what you said.
since I talked about tomoki's personality without lily's influence, I though that by saying she deceived him, you implied it wasn't he fault.
how I see him without lily's influence would be either
-let himself to his greed and result with more or less the same situation as now (since the first thing he decided was to mind control/enslave people)
-broke down and without lily's controle he will just stay in his room like what he did before the summoning
Well I can tell you that in one of the extras we will guet a glimpse of the character of Tomoki from earth outside of the bulling and hikkimori, it will be in a sense interesting.
redcolonel it's funny how hard you are trying to ignor obvious facts:
1) lolwhat? You are implying that pick up lines can give us more reliable info on his true nature than deathdoor actions and long time patterns...
2) first use of his eyes has absolutly same effect as Bichikis brainwashing, it just improves first impresion instead of instantly turning everyone into meat toilets(68 ch)
Kortodo
No I have no good opinion of Tomoki, he is weak and stupid, but when we put him near Bichiki he looks like a perfect man.
About brainwashing there was Lily line where she liked result of his "communication" with party members also we know that she was guiding him from the first day, In real world he was bullied by girls, so without her "help" process at least would be slower and it would be quite possible that he ended with one or two girlfriend.
And it was directly stated that his desire to become an emperor was set up by Lily.
ignore the obvious fact? talk about irony...
1)reread the whole discussion in the dream with tomoki, all his lines was him justifying his own actions, labeling himself as right and other as wrong.
example when he support the use of his nuke, but condemn makoto's spell
when he justify the murder of the royal familly to access thr throne because it was what people wanted, when the people he talked about was his puppets, and condemn at the same time makoto for 'murdering his allies'
hibiki died because Tomoki refused to let makoto help her because she wasn't from gritonia
imply that makoto is his lifetime slave because he saved his life once
talk about bringing peace by declaring war to all country that refuse to fall under his control.
said he enslaved everybody because he didn't want people to go against his will.
"Something like Lily, if you didn’t mind used goods, I wouldn’t have minded giving her to you if you just grovelled." this sentence say long on tomoki's personnality.
when was he at deathdoor? never
when did he felt close to death? when Io jammed his blessing and immortality, he got shitless scared, run away and broke down.
when did he put his safety in danger to protect his toys? never
he showed many time he considered his girls like toys, and never ricked his life for them.
give me sauce if you say I am wrong
2) that's not the point. working or not working is unrelated. a murder if fail is still an tempt of murder and is wrong. the first things he did was to start brainwash (his eyes need an activation for that) the princess, and he would obviously keep doing to anyone.
that just show that he is greedy and see other people as toys and possessions
I can't see with that start how he will redeem. 9 out of 10 he would have either followed the same path as now or just broke down and seclude himself again.
the flaw you see in hibiki:
"for Hibiki comrads is something that you discard and backstab when you can get profit from it."
tomoki:
-disregard his Valkyries to trad them with tomoe (clearly a back stabbing to the girl that gave everything to him)
-disregard the opinion of his close party's member because of his lust
-brainwash anyone that disagree with him because he is insecure
-used the 'life debt' to bend makoto to his will and use his power
-murdered emperor candidate for his greed
- waged war with allied nations for his greed
what you reproach to hibiki, tomoki has the same flaw plus all the others flaws. I don't know from there how you can considerate him as better.
and no, hibiki may have a morallity you disagree with, but tomoki's morality is "whatever he does, even selfish desires, are right. whatever other does that may in a way or another hinder him are wrong.".
Tomoki never admited anything he did as wrong.
i really don't see how Tomoki can be better that Hibiki, really the guy at must give us pity but I can't in anyway so far support him or the way he have been going on. He had had a few time when his image could have been improved in the eyes of the readers but he hasn't, in fact the level of egoism he has showed so far sincerely just show how mutch he lacks. I hope that the author guets to develop him more and at least give him some kind of personal grow, because so far he has been the joke character of the hole series.
Look at what happened in Rotsgard. Humor me here, but if you found out that another country was directly pushing drugs into a local school that drove people into insane murder machines, and that they were doing this on purpose because they hated you, what response would you have for this country and it's leadership? Say someone you were friends with was directly involved as ilumgand was. Would you be able to sit back and say "oh, I understand why they did it because the economic and social policies of our country was obviously pushing them to desperation."
In the world, meaning reality, impoverished nations are still being pushed to the brink because their leadership takes hardline and excessive policies against the will and interests of the majority of other nations. In response, the majority pushes back by depriving them of goods and trade, further impoverishing the nations. North Korea is a prime example, as are nations in the Middle East. If they fell into line, so to speak, and became team players with the rest of the world their economic level would surely improve, but they deem this to be at the expense of their culture and their inherent rights. They do not want to tow the line, especially since the vast national majority often walks all over the smaller nations for personal self-interests. And so they fight back in whatever ways their local power allows and further distance themselves, but who really is at fault here when both sides are merely trying to protect their own self-interests?
The biggest mistake you can make in politics is assuming that people are inherently altruistic, ESPECIALLY those who are considered marginalized or victims. If this was a war against the followers of Gandhi then perhaps you would be able to step back and say "hey, let's no do this, we can work things out with these people", but you will absolutely not have that situation here, and the state of the war was already well beyond that point when Hibiki was summoned.
Well granted in our reality and world those impoverished nations do it to themselves really when they take hardline stances such as NK or the Middle east and while their may be some back room things going on, everyone more or less agrees in the west anyway that this stance is rather bad and it would be better to be more open to trade and such.
The largest problem in this world's case is that the BS has gone too far and their is an all powerful figure called the goddess pushing this BS agenda on a minority for so long and now they somewhat teeter between a do or die situation for their entire race. Had they not gone to war they would starve out in the extreme wastes or had they submit to the hyumans they would still slowly die out due to the religion in place. This is not simply a matter of culture but rather a matter for survival for the demon race and the Demi Humans that support them. Years of oppression and desperation will drive people towards radical and extreme actions for little mind to morals. I believe someone said before in another comment that while it is easy to sympathize with the demons, it is hard to support their actions in which I agree but considering the demons have been pushed that far to consider now drugging kids to become murder machines just goes to show how bad the Hyuman oppression is and how desperate they have become.
The thing is, it seems to have grown from a war for survival into a war of hatred at this point.
Even if they had a place to survive, wouldn't want to stop until the hyumans are all dead.
lol a kept on reading after i got time jus to catch up and materials are just piling up~ :) so happy
Thank you Reigokai-san for this great, much awaited chapter.
Yes, this chapter is pretty much answering chapter for many questions and theory we reader have.
Finally, Hibiki admits her hatred, she also notices a clue about Asora.
Finally, Mio admits that she had plan her no plan and just go well as she plan.
Finally, we got confirmation that Hibiki don't know the weak and Makoto don't know to act as the STRONG.
Finally, Chiya told Makoto about eldritch abomination she had see in him.
We can expect massive comments in this chapter as well.
My first thought after finish this chapter is that
Mio, did you just go through a classic JUST AS PLAN desu wa, perfectly combined with VILLAIN LAUGH on the top of a spire? You even already derived another plan to betray Hibiki, read-hero's, expectation without moving a finger and LEAVE INTO DARKNESS with whispering word.
Are you the WICKED WITCH OF THE WEB?
betray hibiki ? she doesnt even care about hibiki, only the cooking knowledge, why do you think that she betray hibiki ? she doesnt have any obligation to her as far her concern
I didn't mean Mio will betray her. I mean Mio will betray her expectation that Makoto will not involved in war.
well.... Makoto didnt say he wont involved in war, he just state that he will NEUTRAL in the war , and she already kinda ask of makoto to help her to support limia in which is indirectly already involving him in the war
I think it would be cool if makoto became god at the end and would "rule" out of asora with his giant Magic body armor arms that would be befitting of a god
Thanks for the chapter
It's ending hibick's screens time, banzai.
OMG, she has gratitude towards goddess because of her shit situation. Seriously, I am hoping Io beat her again, without no one to save her.
So much undeserved hatred for Hibiki. Are you guys really reading the same story as I am?
Hibiki just reflected on her mistakes... Stop being so biased to Makoto's point of view.
So far, Tomoki is the only one who deserves that hatred, of all characters involved with that goddess.
Even the goddess herself doesn't deserve all the hatred you guys direct at her. You guys have seen her yourselves, the goddess is a naive spoiled brat that just got a dream job but has yet to have people correcting her for her mistakes, She needs a reprieval? yes. But to kill her? To compare her with the Bitcdh goddess from Shield Hero? The one who was evil because she enjoyed making other's lives miserable and consuming worlds.
Put yourselves in Hibiki's position, she's been living in a country that was almost destroyed 2 times already, she got friends there, and chose that country as her second home. She's not just a teenager called by the goddess, like other heroes.
She wants to live the rest of her life there, and contribute to the history of that country, she's already an inhabitant of that world. That's why her point of view is somewhat biased, because she's trying to be a respoinsible person.
Makoto however, has been trying to stay as a mere visitor, he doesn't intend to live in that world, so he couldn't care less about what happens. At the same time, he doesn't want to get him involved with that world negatively, so he tries to help on the side.
Are ou really saying that it is wrong for Hibiki to do whatever possible to protect her new home, because "scheming is wrong"?
Then by all means point your hatred to every chieftain, president, emperor or king in the long history of mankind.
She's not an unninvolved person here, she also not just a hero, she wants to change that country for the better an ensure they live in prosperity, in the future. She has finally noticed that somewhere inside her, her motivations were small, petty. That they were similar to things she didn't like, and wanted to change. She even mocked herself laughing at the whole situation.
It takes a good person to reflect on their mistakes like she just did. Yes, her views are wrong, but that's because she has never had an oportunity to see things from another angle.
However, can you say that you treat rich or strong people fairly? Most of the people can't, i'm already tired of seeing people bash successful people for their problems, Instead of reflecting about what is the real cause of their unhappiness. It's the same thing for both the strong and the weak.
The one I irked about Hibiki is, she KNOWS she is wrong, yet decided to push through, admitting and reflecting are different thing.
She may admit her mistakes, but she not even a bit reflecting on it, leave aside correcting it.
And yes, scheming is not wrong, it's a good thing in fact, but man...... enslaving, is another thing.that may I remind you that enslaving part is already on her agenda, even when it's inevitable thing, she decided that it was the right course to take, heck even while she don't have that much power, the voice of hero must means something to people, if she even care about other race and not blinded by rage she will offer a counter proposal to makoto along the lines "I will do everything in my power to prevent the worst to happens"
But let's face it, this is the role the author give to Hibiki, she's a perfect example of knight of templar of the past, blinded by their own beliefs and ignoring everything else.
Of course she not uninvolved people, she's a damn Hero, so please act like one. I think the war itself are progressing too fast, Hibiki should turn 18 by now, that's where our emotions are the most unstable, and given the fact she already tainted in the flames of war, I guess it's not strange for her to have biased view of how things going.
I think the author is splendidly putting things into place, two tainted soul from our world and one pure ones, we ended up comparing them.
And no I don't really hate Hibiki, if I should say it I kinda pity her, but that's why I love this LN, I cannot wait to see how things will roll in the future.
she know her mistake but reflecting to her mistake ? IMHO i dont think so since she doesnt do anything to fix her mistake, most of us mostly bashing about how she just nontchalanly call the Demons as 'Terrorist' just because they're the oppresed in this race war, that she think the demon should just zip-it and die a dog death or become a slave just because they're the minority.
She never know how it feel to be the bottom feeder since she always the 'thoroughbreed' since birth. When she got rejected by Mio and Lime she feel kinda envious because she cant have the things she wants
And also makoto not really want to kill the Bug, he mostly only want to drag the Bug down to at least make her know her own mistake to the world in which she discriminate the demons just because they're not beautiful enough in her standart.
well that just my honest though and opinion
More than hatred, I just don't have compassion for someone who almost died 2 times and still dares to treat it like a game or some kind of challenge. she is a lost case, a fool worth of pity at best.
Also, she is complete twisted, hoping she does not get along brother bredda (tyrant queen).
I understand your point, but even it's difficult to accept because she only values her party member. Other peoples are just numbers, a game, with a twisted value aggregate that even worth her life, she has more than a few screw loose.
I don't blame all problems on her, like your analogy. But doesn't matter who "the end doesn't justify the means". it's not just scheming, killing children, elder, innocent (remember her wish for Makoto death only because of Mio's power in Rotsgard), bribe, blackmail, there is a lot of bad things. This kind of logic makes even Hitler a good person (technology advanced), well I exaggerate a little.
Other heroes?
Firstly, there is only Tomoki... Makoto is not a hero.
Secondly, what makes you think makoto does not want any connection to this world. He just don't think that he is capable of shouldering such responsibility and authority since he knew he felt that abit good-of-nothing. We, readers, felt that he shld man up because he has that STRENGTH... But, strength is not what make ppl capable... If any, it must coupled with strong mentality to make one capable n responsible.
Beside, if makoto wants nothing to do with the world, he can just hole up in asora without going to rostgard, need not learn abt the world and do business with everyone. He just don't feel he is capable of being responsible to the world if he drag the goddess down.
In the first place, he grew up without the help of god... So, he will not understand the gravity shld the world lose its only god (neither will i) . This is why, he feels like asking tomoe and shiki opinion more.
Yes, i agree it is a virtue shld one be aware of her own fault.
But she is not totally convinced it is a fault...
Did she intend to stop her DISCRIMINATION against the weak (demon)?
No, she didnt. She don't even doubt her stand. She is only aware of her hatred towards demons, based on this chapter.
She did not have the opportunity? I mean seriously, she is in that world for a year and she had no opportunity? That's like saying she don't have captives of demon race, since she killed them all without talking to them. By the way, that is not what a responsible person would do to begin with. A responsible person in that world shld be someone who understand the POV of the people she kills. Yet, she just says, it is their fault to challenge the common sense.
hibiki is just being spoiled and sly.
Yes, she want to change the world from the inside. But, it is only for her own sake. Not because it is her home now.
If u notice, she kip on saying it is worthwhile to be a hero. She may felt hatred towards demon for her fallen comrade. But that repetitive mumbling of hers already suggested that her motivation stem from a different basis: it is a challenge.
She came to this world because it is a challenge.
She refuse to accept ppl's views on the matter because she want to prove her view is the only correct one.
It is not as pure as to make her HOME prosper or protect it...
I don't hate Hibiki, since she's an important trigger for Makoto's growth and is just doing her best to get the best end realistically possible.
That said, I also do not excuse her shortcomings. Under normal conditions, someone makes a mistake, reflects, tries to make things right, and becomes better as a person. Hibiki though, can't take any of this back if she succeeds and in a likelihood doesn't even want to.
As an ally of Limia, she passes with flying colors. But as a hero? She was teetering for a while and in these past few chapters, she's completely failed as one.
What is a hero in these novels other than an assassin? Aren't they just a warrior sent to kill the head of the opposing faction? How many heroes are actually heroes for all sides in a war? Do the people they fight against consider themselves evil and the hero justified in their actions? Do the demons believe that drugging students and mutating them into monsters is a heroic or an evil endeavor? Do the orcs feel the actions of the demon outrunners that killed them off systematically while pretending to be Shen were heroic efforts on their part?
A hero is not a saint. They have flaws, they have personal emotions and baggage, and they have their own interpretations of things. Here they carry the hopes and dreams of the people that support them as a strong vanguard in the fight against their enemies, and in this way Hibiki is exemplary to the term. There is a reason Tomoki is a hero, and it is the same reason Beowulf's epic is heroic despite his going out to kill a grieving mother. Even Makoto is a hero to the people of Asora regardless of what the rest of the world may believe.
Hibiki does not support slavery, but summoned into a world where the idea is apparently deeply ingrained into society. She can't just snap her face Gershwin and magically change it, so she intends to try to influence people away from discrimination after the wars end. As seen on Rotsgard chapters she has already attempted to lay the groundwork with the Limia king and royal family. However she knows nothing can be done during the demon war, and likely not until after the war with Gritonia that she knows will follow it. As a single person she can only do so much, so she gathers strength to her, but as it is continuously proved to her she is never strong enough. If she were At Makoto's level then you could expect her to be much more proactive, but as is she can't even defeat Io nor even protect the capital city of the nation she serves. Let alone fighting a god to forcibly change the people's mindsets or being able to instantly run away to a separate dimension of complete safety at any time, she has to work with the people of the world instead.
Actually Hibiki just stated that she totally supports the slavery. Slavery is part of a common sense which she accepted, and ideal solution for a weak(in her twisted mind)
Also she in a year didn't even lift a finger to reduce discrimination toward a demihumans, coz there was no profit for her.
That year has been spent at war. In a situation where humanity must remain united against a great threat, fracturing her support with drastic social and political upheaval is akin to shooting yourself in the foot. She has plans, but they can't proceed during a time of war.
@Bloody. "Are ou really saying that it is wrong for Hibiki to do whatever possible to protect her new home, because “scheming is wrong”?"
You still one of those saying that at this point when the general concensus agrees that Hibiki is a master manipulator that say whatever she can to justify her actions and preach moral conduct to others while she herself lacks any moral integrity (hence the self confessed hypocrisy). To advocate against a neutral party because it would potentially get in her way of killing more demons for revenge doesn't feed into the 'protect' narrative.
"That’s why her point of view is somewhat biased, because she’s trying to be a respoinsible person."
Its biased to the point of being unproductive. I don't see how she is being resposnsible person when Waterfall already warned her against provoking Makoto and the potential fallout.
Hibiki's concern with Makoto's neutrality is in regards that his efforts prolong the war, which means more will die on both sides. This is a common military issue. A city under siege will not surrender if independent smugglers keep the populace fed, even if they feed the attacking army equally in the process. To give a more poignant example, Truman authorized the dropping of the atomic bombs because the belief was that a land invasion against Japan would have an astromically high cost in lives on both sides given the dogged fervor of the Japanese military, so by crushing their spirit into surrender they would be "saving" more lives than would be lost. The results are of course still a deeply debated topic, but the reasoning is as pragmatic as it is heartless.
This is something similar, as while helping those in need is obviously the "right" thing to do, logistically and from a practical standpoint it is just as "wrong".
Wew I disagree about goddess....are you forgetting in the place that the one that put the demon on hard place thus starting the war was the goddess? Making obvious discrimination by buffing hyuman 4x and debuffing demon 4x was also the goddess? Sending someone by freefall to the edge of the world just because an ugly face and petty jealously, a goddess? Heck even aqua(konosuba) still cuter by comparison.
And about hibiki...while I don't hate her for manipulation or and how she consider that slavery still needed(If someone here watching arslan senki there's an episode where it was the slave that angry because they are freed...because they have no skill or whatever to live) but saying weak people have to accept being oppressed it's what we call dictatorship and how ungrateful and slow to learn she is that i think makes her hated so much...even demon king zef know not to stir up makoto while hibiki getting instruction by waterfall,threaten by mio, witnessing the power itself..and still trying to stir up makoto by finding asora? I can't say she was thinking for limia sake or her own vendetta now.
The view point of the weak is it now?? let's just put hibiki into Nazi concentration camp and see if she can still say climbing the ladder to survive
I dint hate hibiki as much as others up till now, but it changed when mako and hibiki were going towards waterfall, she thought he was dangerous becoz he could ezily commit genocide which would be strange for someone raised in japan, yet later she states that to hold the common sense of japan in this world was bad, this contradiction is what i find the most irritating till now.
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Well we can already tell just by what she said that hibiki is on a war path. Especially when she was talking about find the mirage town, following a slightly different path than waterfall said, and making Makito compromise. It is pretty obvious she will target Ausra and attempt to use it as a hostage to control maketo.
Seriously she's the worst.
Just like one of those stereotypical antagonists that threaten to kill the people they care about to control them
Just use the microwave already!
well if she manage to find and try to use Asora, she will be held prisoner there since the only people that can open the portal are Makoto and his follower + Komoe (since she created from Tomoe but with a core of Makoto draupnir)
If she does go that route and actually find Mirage Town, she will be in for a surprise. Mirage Town is a tiny section of Asora made so the Asoran can contain any hostility from outsiders. I bet there's multiple ways to neutralize hostiles in that town, and even if Hibiki somehow got out of the town into the greater Asora. She would find her self and her party, if she brought them, surrounded by over powered demi humans and animals. A force that could take on a demon army several times their size.
Not to mention that cool Neptune that can stop a volcano.
Asora firepower for defensive battle has gone through the roof, they unintentionally gathering more and more LuBu-like firepower each day.
Anyway I really confused about the like Asora Beast king, They are something that created because Asora right ? How come they did not know who their master is ?
Like the Wolf King?
I think they just came into existence, either without knowledge on who created them, or they know, but don't automatically worship him (he have to show them if he's worthy if their respect).
@Jinsan
I think they know who, thats why they kept on calling makoto the king in Asora, though Makoto himself doesnt like it
But maybe their concept of thinking is like Makoto that made their own independence like ways and just like what happened to the antonio's, if someone's hostile, they're dead
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