Categories: QualiA

Chapter 210: The counter-plan goes astray

“Kuzunoha company’s peddling permission?”

“Yeah, he has saved my and his Majesty’s life in Rotsgard. We called him here to give our gratitude, so doing nothing won’t do. Raidou made a petition himself, and it isn’t a subject that needs any heavy regulation, so I have given him a response geared towards accepting.” (Joshua)

“I see.”

“Is there some sort of problem? A number of nobles that want him to make a store will probably be unsatisfied with this decision, but it shouldn’t be disadvantageous for us.” (Joshua)

“Yes, I think Joshua-sama’s thinking is correct. If he wished for it, it should be appropriate as an expression of gratitude.”

“It makes me happy that Hibiki says so as well. But well, the fact that this is currently the only request of Raidou makes me feel troubled though. It would actually make me feel more at ease if he were to ask for land or a peerage.” (Joshua)

A conversation with Joshua and Hibiki.

The conversation was about the Kuzunoha Company.

The promise that Joshua made to Raidou about the permission for the peddling the Kuzunoha Company did on the territory.

The two were talking about that matter.

Bredda was also there, but as of now, he hasn’t joined the conversation.

“He probably thinks he has obtained plenty enough compensation.” (Hibiki)

“No way. To say it is plenty enough when he saved the king and prince of a major power, there shouldn’t be a person who thinks in that way.” (Joshua)

“…If it’s him, it is possible. He is that kind of person.” (Hibiki)

“It is certainly true that Raidou has an uhm…a kind way of thinking, that doesn’t fit a merchant. But even he should have some sort of avarice. I would also like to recompense him a bit more. It wouldn’t be good to leave strange lingering discomfort after all.” (Joshua)

“You wanted to say he has a naive way of thinking, right Joshua-sama? That’s actually right, you know.” (Hibiki)

“Even so, that’s not a word that should be directed towards someone that has saved my life, Hibiki.” (Joshua)

Hibiki restates the words of Joshua who chose his words.

Joshua rebukes her, but there was no stormy atmosphere between the two.

Bredda was silently drinking tea.

It was easy to see that this is an usual occurrence.

“What are Joshua-sama’s thoughts about how we should associate with them from now on?” (Hibiki)

The true meaning of Hibiki’s question was not to ask the opinion of Joshua’s personal opinion only, but to include the king’s stance, and the will of the nobles.

Joshua is the advisor of the king, and the number of people that think his opinion is the opinion of the king are not few.

“He himself is someone that doesn’t hold evil intentions. The strength they have as a company and the ability of its employees can become a threat depending on the sides it takes, but in basis, I think I want to build a favorable relationship. It is clear that it is not simple peddling, and in reality, the contribution Mio-dono achieved outside her schedule in the reconstruction was splendid. It seems like they have cooperated with the reconstruction of Rotsgard as well, but from what I see, they probably have done more of their part in the work than a simple cooperator. I was about to overlook that part in the report that I had gotten.” (Joshua)

“Rotsgard has already regained its former form and is advancing to a step further than that. It is saddening, but the speed to stand back up was clearly different from the capital. There’s no doubt the Kuzunoha Company played a big part in it. Just looking at their achievements, it is truly an appealing existence, but…” (Hibiki)

Anguish shows in Hibiki’s face.

“As I thought, there’s problems too huh. In my eyes, they look like partners that can become extremely beneficial though… Then, from Hibiki’s viewpoint, how does he look to you?” (Joshua)

“Right now it is hard to put it in clear words but…there’s a few points.” (Hibiki)

“I don’t mind. Let’s hear it.” (Joshua)

“First of all, he doesn’t have an interest in the war that’s currently occurring in the world. On top of that, even though he is the Head of a power that can be considered a nation, he doesn’t have any intentions to gain more than what he personally views. It is incredibly unstable, and engaging them carelessly is way too dangerous.” (Hibiki)

“Assuming that there are a number of other people that have the same power as Mio-dono in the Kuzunoha Company, and taking Raiou-dono’s power into consideration as well, then not only a mercenary group, they would possess a military force akin to a nation. I consider it is proper to think of them to be in a nation level. But what’s that about not being interested in the war? I don’t understand the part about being unstable either.” (Joshua)

“It means exactly as I have said. He has the notable characteristic that no matter how much the hyumans, demi-humans, and demons do war with each other, he won’t care. Also, he has no discrimination towards the demi-humans, and it is possible that if asked to provide accommodations because of troubles…they would most likely sell goods even to the demon race.” (Hibiki)

“No way! That’s an act of betrayal towards hyumans!”

Bredda speaks out for the first time.

While they are doing business in the hyuman country, they sell goods to the demon race.

Thinking about it from the common sense of Bredda -no, from the common sense of a hyuman, it is an inconceivable act.

“…Even to the demon race? He didn’t look like he had such a lack of integrity though.” (Joshua)

Joshua narrows his brows at the opinion of Hibiki.

Because in Joshua’s eyes, Raidou didn’t look like a person that would sell goods to the demon race for profit.

“…It is not that there’s no integrity in profit. In that sense, I actually think he is loose. The point of beingr troubled is what plays a big part.” (Hibiki)

“For example, no matter the cause, if there’s a demon race village that was unable to secure food supply in winter and there’s a request for help, they would help them out even if it is a situation where even payment is doubtful?” (Joshua)

“Yeah. Of course, even if there’s a request for help similar to that from hyumans or demi-humans, they would most likely reach the same decision. He is…kind, after all.” (Hibiki)

“As a result, the war would grow longer…and a great number of lives would be lost, bringing ruin to the world as a whole, and yet, he would still do it?” (Joshua)

“He is kind after all. If there’s someone in trouble, no matter if hyuman or demon, he would most likely save them. Demi-humans wounded by hyumans, hyumans that were wounded by demi-humans…without discrimination.” (Hibiki)

“…I see. It is certainly true that Raidou-dono gave that kind of feeling. The part that he would choose help over profit. If in his mind, hyumans and demons are equally worthy of saving, they will become an incredibly troublesome existence.” (Joshua)

“Yes. For hyumans and demons alike, they will become an exceedingly dangerous existence.” (Hibiki)

“It is so sudden it is hard to believe, but since it is something Hibiki says, it is worth considering. If they are contributing to the demon race in the same manner as with us, it would not be good. But…even if that’s truly the case, we still have no choice but to continue with our current way of interacting. I see, so this is what’s troubling you, Hibiki.” (Joshua)

Joshua continued his words as he thought about the methods that can be taken with the Kuzunoha Company, and then, he noticed the reason for Hibiki’s heavy expression.

“…Yes. We have no choice but to have a favorable relationship with them. If they are an existence that brings benefits to both sides, we have to get involved with them as well.” (Hibiki)

The expression of Hibiki was still bitter, and it was comprehensible.

If it’s an existence that they can expect benefits in being involved with, even if they bring benefits to the enemy as well, they have no choice but to be involved with them as well.

Even if they are dangerous, as long as they don’t have a clear countermeasure for them, they won’t be able to break the deadlock, so they have to continue with how their relationship currently is.

“Fufufu, right. There’s no reason for us to throw away that benefit ourselves. And in truth, in this time’s visit, we have utilized them plenty after all. And yet, they are being taken as a threat. It is truly a misfortune.” (Joshua)

Joshua laughs in a self-depreciating manner.

The visit of the Kuzunoha Company has several objectives they have not been told about.

Thinking about that, a smile unconsciously came out.

“I will try to convince him at least. If…he were to side with us, it would solve most of the problems without doubt after all.” (Hibiki)

“It is written all over your face that you don’t think it will go well.” (Joshua)

“Honestly speaking, I don’t have the confidence. His sense of worth is already a lot more different than mine. I don’t know if we will be able to reach an understanding.” (Hibiki)

“I pray for your success. I want to continue having a good relationship with him after all.” (Joshua)

“Regarding that, I heartfeltly agree as well. It is someone I definitely wouldn’t want to be in trouble with after all.” (Hibiki)

“Someone you definitely don’t want to be in trouble with huh. Well, fine then. Regarding Raidou, I will leave the decision making to you. Well then Hibiki, you won’t mind if I advance things just as we have discussed, right?” (Joshua)

“Yes. I was meddled a bit by Mio-san, but there won’t be any problems. Let’s continue with it in one go.” (Hibiki)

“Understood.” (Joshua)

The talk finished, and Hibiki stands from her seat.

Joshua also stood up a second later, and sees her off.

Bredda was about to leave the room following Hibiki as if natural, but at that moment, he was called from behind.

“Bredda, there’s something I have to talk with you about.”

“Hah?” (Bredda)

Being in a different pattern from normal, Bredda let out a dumbfounded voice.

There have been times when Bredda has been in presence of the conversation between Hibiki and Joshua, but there’s never been something after that.

He was with the thoughts of only accompanying Hibiki, so it is an expected reaction.

“Ara, then I will be going ahead.” (Hibiki)

Hibiki didn’t show any special surprise and leaves promptly.

“Wai–, Hibiki?!” (Bredda)

The door was ruthlessly closed.

“…Seriously, what do you want, Joshua?” (Bredda)

Because Hibiki was now gone, Bredda returns to his sibling way of speaking and takes seat in a slightly violent manner.

He asks for Joshua’s business.

“Brother, I have established several occasions for this kind of meetings, but you haven’t participated in any of them properly, right?” (Joshua)

“I am present only as a knight and a bodyguard of Hibiki. In the first place, I am not in a position to say my opinion.” (Bredda)

“Because there was the will of the king as well, I have given tacit consent to brother’s attitude until now, but with the capital in this state, I can’t just leave it as always.” (Joshua)

“…Listen here Joshua…” (Bredda)

“Isn’t it time to be thinking about the ruling of the country? Not as a knight, nor a party member of Hibiki’s, but as the successor of father.” (Joshua)

“…You are talking about that? I have decided to be the shield of Hibiki as a knight. If it’s about the throne, you succeed it. If it’s Joshua, there’s no one who would be against it.” (Bredda)

“I don’t have the gift to be a ruler. In this time of war, the role of the king is to encourage the whole country, and the one who is the most fit for that role of being the king of Limia is you, brother. In the first place, I have already abandoned the succession of the throne.” (Joshua)

“It is just fine to say you want it back. In the first place, me being the decoration and you being the counsellor is not that different from you being the one directly doing things. I refuse being a simple decoration hanging.” (Bredda)

“Abandoning the succession of the throne is not something as simple as that you know. Also, if you are able to fulfill the role of a decoration, then in a sense, it can be considered a talent for being king.” (Joshua)

“But I have been telling you haven’t I? I want to be of use to Hibiki—” (Bredda)

“If you think that way, why can’t you understand that being the next king is the best move?!” (Joshua)

Bredda tried to finish the conversation in the same note, but today was different in all senses.

Interrupting his words, Joshua shouted.

At the same time, Joshua hits the table and a loud sound reverberated in the place.

“…What did you say?” (Bredda)

“Looking at the current Hibiki, you should be able to tell. She is already in a territory that a normal person can’t catch up to. That’s right…there’s already no way for brother to become the shield of Hibiki! When in the party, the most you can do is guard the priestess and Wudi, right?!” (Joshua)

Watching the mock battle of Raidou, Joshua was able to understand plenty enough that Hibiki’s strength had already surpassed the line of normal.

She clearly had a strength that went a different path from that of a strong adventurer.

The same could be said for Raidou, but it was evident that it was a different dimension from the trained strength of Bredda.

“Joshua, you…what are you trying to…” (Bredda)

“Brother will definitely become shackles for Hibiki in time, that’s what I am trying to say. Before turning into that, I am advising you to help her out in politics! Let me tell you this, you are only a prodigy by birth. Because of the king’s lineage.” (Joshua)

“Shut up!!” (Bredda)

“For example, the three of Kuzunoha Company, no matter which one of those three brother fights, you wouldn’t be able to defeat any. But if you move as the king of Limia, brother will have plenty enough power to become the strength of Hibiki.” (Joshua)

“I’m telling you to shut up!!” (Bredda)

“This is father’s will!” (Joshua)

“?!!”

“…It’s not that I think this way. If the capital gets attacked again, is there an assurance that the king will be safe? If he were to fall in this state where we still haven’t announced the next successor… We can’t have the current Limia fight over who will be the next successor. Something like that, even brother understands, right? Father is thinking about announcing brother as the next successor. Things like reading the heart of your own father, you should at least be able to do that without having me telling you, brother!” (Joshua)

“I can still do it. I will become stronger and support Hibiki.” (Bredda)

“I know that brother is someone that doesn’t slack in his efforts, but not only Hibiki; the priestess, Wudi, and also Naval; everyone possesses outstanding talent. It isn’t something that one can keep up with just hard work. Fortunately, brother’s defensive sword style can become a help in moments of need. Please take heed of my words.” (Joshua)

“Then what will they do about my substitute?! Yeah, it is certainly true that my strength is lacking, but is there any other person that’s able to support the current Hibiki at her side? Before talking about being me being the king, shouldn’t you first find that person?” (Bredda)

“…There is.” (Joshua)

“What?” (Bredda)

“I said there is one. We will be meeting that person after the Kuzunoha Company leaves though.” (Joshua)

Heartless words came from Joshua.

Bredda was at a loss for words, and was dumbfounded by the unyielding attitude of his little brother he had never seen before.

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Night

Finishing my plans of the day, I had returned to my room and was passing a leisure time with Lime.

He was doing maintenance to his katana that had finished recovering, in a good mood while talking about the state of the land near the castle.

“As expected, they are still far from being finished in the reconstruction.” (Makoto)

“Right. There’s also the point that Rotsgard is just way too fast though. Mio-neesan showed several things, so there’s probably going to be a request for help from the prince or maybe someone else.” (Lime)

“If it’s about helping with the reconstruction, I don’t mind helping in a permissible level though. It would definitely be a lot easier for the people that come from Rotsgard if the groundwork has been done after all.” (Makoto)

“It would be great if that much is enough though.” (Lime)

“That’s the most we can do. No matter the case, if the war intensifies once more…” (Makoto)

“The demon race huh. I don’t think they will match the conveniency of hyumans and not attack in winter, but…I wonder what they are planning. If it were me, I would immediately come to crush the weakened Limia though.” (Lime)

For the demon race, winter is a season that’s easy for them to defend in.

For hyumans, it is hard to attack.

But just as Lime says, it doesn’t mean the demons will have a hard time attacking too.

This is something that I can say with confidence after meeting them; the Demon Lord is not the type that would loosen in the offensive.

He is a person that would attack with no hesitation.

In other words, there’s a reason why he is not going for the attack.

In that case, this time where they are waiting for spring and the time they are doing their best in the reconstruction is actually a vital time for the hyumans.

Because it means that the demons are preparing a hand that is bigger than attacking the current Limia after all.

“Right. Well, when the time comes, I will move as well, so it won’t turn into the worst scenario.” (Makoto)

“Boss will move? You didn’t seem to have much interest in the war though.” (Lime)

“Hm? I don’t have any interest in the war, I also have no intentions in participating. Just that, I don’t think the demon race has much intentions of meddling with merchants and adventurers that much, so no matter what happens with the hegemony of society, I don’t think much would change in our everyday life.” (Makoto)

“…Getting along with the demon race is kind of a…complicated feeling. Then what do you mean by moving?” (Lime)

“Meaning that I will try to save Senpai at least. I don’t know about this country though.” (Makoto)

“…That’s just like Boss-ssu. Hm? Someone’s coming. This is…Hibiki-ssu ne. This late in the night, that’s rare. (Lime)

“Senpai? If she has any business, it would be with me huh.” (Makoto)

“Most likely. Well, even if Boss and Hibiki pass a night together, nothing will be happening, so it is most likely not going to end in seduction.” (Lime)

“Oh, sharp words there. Leaving aside me, from what I know, Senpai is quite popular you know?” (Makoto)

“…Well, she pretends as if she knows how to deal with men. She is the same as Boss, so she won’t be able to do those kind of things.” (Lime)

“The same as me?” (Makoto)

“Hehe, just ignore this delirious talk of a man that has travelled along with her.” (Lime)

What is he talking about? 

The points that Senpai and I have in common are pretty few, you know.

After a bit, knocking comes from the door.

“Yes?”

“It is Hibiki. Do you have a bit of time?” (Hibiki)

“Come in.” (Makoto)

Just like what Lime said, it was Senpai.

“…So Lime was here too. Can you please…no, Raidou-dono, can you accompany me for a bit? It might take a while though.” (Hibiki)

Is it something that she doesn’t want to talk about in this room?

At the very least, it doesn’t seem to be something related to the priestess-san.

I don’t think we will be visiting her at this late of an hour after all.

“It is okay. Then Lime, I will be leaving for a bit. It is okay to go rest before me.” (Makoto)

“Okay. I will do that.” (Lime)

Lime lowers his head.

His mouth was smiling, but his eyes weren’t smiling much.

Maybe because Tomoe or someone of that line has asked him to be cautious of her?

But even if he is going to eavesdrop, there’s nothing that would trouble me if he heard, so I will just let him do whatever he wants.

“Then, let’s go.”

“Yes.”

Senpai is trying to feign it as always, but I could tell from her body that she was tense.

Just like when we talked about the priestess, I don’t think this will be a comfortable talk.

Because of the recall ritual, it has become a pretty good development for me in Limia though.

Waterfall seemed to be the sober type of dragon, but she opened the library and brought us back, so she is quite the open-hearted fellow.

I have also received the peddling permission for the Forest Oni’s unit, and as long as we are able to return without anything happening, it would be great.

But it won’t go so smoothly huh.

Ah, right.

It depends on the talk with Senpai, but maybe I should try talking with her about the recall ritual.

I think that information about returning home is important.

Yeah, that’s not bad.

The back of Senpai made a silence flow through us, and that provided me time to arrange my thoughts.

In time, Senpai’s legs stop and turns towards me.

Senpai and I were in a part of the castle, at a corridor where we could easily see all the land around the castle.

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  • Thanks for the chapter..

    Hibiki & Makoto: How about we recall you back to earth..

    Hibiki & Makoto: Eh!?

    Hibiki & Makoto: Jinx!

    Hibiki: Don't you wanna return? Don't you miss your family? friends?

    Makoto: I don't have any lingering attachments there already.. How bout you? Don't you wanna return.. Since it's technically my fault why you guys are dragged to this world

    Hibiki: I like this world... And personally I don't wanna return (damn it.. Why wouldn't he return..)

    Makoto: Oh.. Ok.. Same situation then.. Ok.. Bye-bye (Back to world domination.. Ehem peddling.. teaching.. mindbreaking..)

  • Thanks for the chapter.

    I don't think that Joshua will send Makoto's students to war.
    I suspect about Ilumgando genius brother.

    • ... are you sure... ?
      She's a prince that prepared to sacrifice herself for her country, don't you think she will also sacrificing her people for victory ?
      In character with high pride like her, usually they will also carry a calculative mind, if the price for whole country is one tiny soul, I don't think she will even hesitate.

    • Its something like 'I could kill a dog but I cant kill humans?' Kind of a thing. Forgot what the actual line was but i think someone had said somethig about this idea already.
      How people think He woudnt betray hos own kind kind of a thing when he wasnt even given any real rewards.

      • It's not that surprising, really.

        First off, hyumans are in a race war with the Demons. You know how a common enemy forces people to join together? Same thing. That's why Limia/Gritonia/Lorel, even though they don't like each other (and may fight each other in the future) are teamed up now and now backstabbing each other.

        Second, Limia hasn't seen Makoto being mistreated. He's a prominent Lecturer at a prestigious university, he has a thriving business, and people love his store. So they don't have a concrete reason to think that Raidou has grudge against hyumanity.

        • Yhea. Just hyuman pride and naivity at its finnest. Even hibiki is becoming something akin to the hyumans who didnt even know tactics

      • Yeah especially when mio has been giving her too many hints and can't get the message given to her. Its like talking to an unintelligent being

      • They really made a naive mistake in that... the reason why the MC can, in their terms, easily betray the "hyumans" is because he doesn't see himself as one. That's why he could look back and see all of the races equally and without any bias...

  • Well Hibiki... I agree that Makoto has prolonged the war after all without him Limia probably won't need to worry about the war anymore.

    • Because limia would be destroy.
      Thats y, limia and hibiki are focusing on the cons they acquired and forgotten the benefits they had acquired

      • Not only Limia would be destroyed.
        The plot from the demon people, where they used the staff to call Root, would still be used. They seem to have planned that for a long time, and the plan would come to completion more or less around the same time as it did in this time-line. (Maybe when the demon-kind celebrate their victory over Limia?). The only one capable of stopping it, however, would then not be near. That would be the end of the war, and demon-kind. Moreover, people would probably claim it was the goddess who interfered, since none would be alive to say they saw a dragon.

      • The summoning might have gone ahead without Makoto, but it is unlikely they would have summoned Root if not for Makoto's presence.

      • Am i somehow thinking that, there might be a story of an unusual summon, since theres a story that it randomly happens, and the one that will be summoned will be either or both the two lovely top onee-sans.

      • vinzzz007 no the staff was used BECAUSE makoto was there and not otherwise, the mock battle was the oportunity the rebels needed to get all the generals toghether and distracted/weakened because of it, also the destruction of the OLD capital wouldnt mean much since they have a newer one, the demon lord also wouldnt have died since he could protect himself from it so the demon leadership would be safe, the diference would be that any posible suport for the rebels in the populance would be gone and they would be captured faster instead

    • So let's see what will happen if the MC didn't do anything:
      - the academy city would be destroyed
      - the heroes would most likely be killed
      - the capitals of the countries would be razed to the ground
      - the authorities attending the festival would be in danger
      - no one will be there to stop Sofia
      And considering all of that, she has the gall to say everything about our MC...

  • the existace of Makoto is more and mor become a threat, toward not just godness and the Hyuman faction, but aslo to the other side as welll.
    But i should remind you, he only hold grude gainst the Godness( specificly the bug)... so he always try to drag as many people out of his fight as possible before it turn into a cluster f*ck of chaos, like his previous self on the other timelines.....

      • It will be even interesting when he learned that almost all his party member splendidly employed by Kuzunoha

      • This was something I read on animesuki, but from what the person said, it was one of the most recent raw releases.

        Also, Makoto will have another battle with someone strong in the future. Don't know when though.

  • Don't get why the Hyuman side considers it a betrayal of Makoto were he to supply the demon side. They haven't really done jack squat for him and he has literally saved their country and hero from ruins when he also considered at this point a neutral party. They should take what Mio said and shove it and not get in the way. Specially consider it a pain in the ass that Hibiki still sides with the Hyumans and still consider herself a force of good when their side is mostly causing all the problems or should I say the Goddess faction which controls it. Genius my ass if she still can't see how bad the Bug bitch is.

    • It's because the hyumans are "suppose" to be united under the goddess in the fight against the demons. Supporting the demons would be supporting the enemy. Makoto sees no difference between humans, demi-humans, and demons. Hibiki and Tomoki don't know the true face of the goddess. Their only interactions was from the summoning and nothing further. So their image is based nothing more on the image the hyumans have of the goddess. We as the readers see both sides of the story (though a bit more skewed towards Makoto's POV), so we can truly understand its the hyumans by their teachings from the goddess that are misguided, and that the demons are not necessarily evil but do what they must for the survival of their race.

      • I'm actually starting to see the goddess as a tsundere. And if you read the specials about Makoto's parents, you'll understand, a little bit, why the goddess abuses Makoto.

        And, this was explained in a previous chapter, if Makoto alone was summoned as a hero in the hyuman society, he would turn dark faster than the current Makoto. so IF the goddess knows that and intentionally summoned other heroes and sent Makoto to the wasteland rather than a powerhouse country... Wouldn't she the biggest tsundere?

        • Yeah, I don't buy it.

          Firstly, Bug doesn't have that kind of foresight. Secondly, she was still being a spoiled brat in the side story. Lastly, as far as any of us know, she didn't know anything about Makoto and the first two teleports could be seen as attempted murder.

      • @Fuannai
        Well, his mom did mention, "She is more like tsuntsuntsuntsuntsundere."
        So. . . Maybe? Though, I don't think the Goddess is quite that good. She's trashed Makoto pretty bad every time she's ever met with him.

      • @Fuannai
        Well considering that the goddess didn't gave him the ability to communicate with hyumans and dropped him in the wastelands where hyumans presence is scarce i don't think she was being tsundere at all.Also she didn't know it was Makoto being summoned until he was already sent there so i don't think she was planning to preserve him or guiding him considering she didn't even want him on her world

      • @Psychronia who knows. she might have know through the other Makoto's. Although bratty, she still did help Makoto's parents. And actually, if she didn't help them, Makoto would have never been born. She did more than what was in their contract. Those attempted murders, though this seems shit, but Makoto has some sort of obligation to comply with the goddess as he is already a property of the goddess. Remember in the first chapters? Makoto was set as a compensation, by his parents, for the help of goddess in transferring his parents to another world.

        @Ascending Flame well, I never said she's good. I do really hope that she has a dere side :v but it will be a tough wall to break since she's a tsuntsuntsuntsuntsundere.

        @lynnerst she was actually stunned why Makoto wasn't able to talk in common language when they met before she sent Makoto into Limia. As far as I can remember it has something to do with Makoto's capacity being full and shiz. Can't quite remember. The goddess knew that one of the Misumi will come.. Well there can be a lot of speculations, but long story short, The goddess is quite irritated at Misumi bloodline since it's the clan that has forsaken the world she had put in so much effort.

        • The only reason she made that deal with Makoto's parents was so she could force them back to their families when they failed. She didn't think that they'd actually succeed, and if it wasn't for the fact that gods can't go back on their words, she wouldn't have done it.

    • It is a betrayal since he's also a hyuman. Just imagine, you're in a company and you learned that your sister company is secretly having a deal with your rival company.

      Even if they take the warning of Mio, is there any guarantee that the Kuzunoha co. will not do anything to Limia? Kuzunoha may not have a reason as of now, but what if in the near future they change mind?

      Hibiki is not doing the hero thing for some self-righteous reasons. It is more of sense of duty?

      • She is doing it for fun.
        Well, she did decided to come to this world for some worthwhile obstable in her life, because she is "blessed" in the modern world.

        Anw, i agreed to ur analogy but disagree with the rebuttal using analogy to explain why they think makoto is betraying hyuman.

        It is true that makoto is, genetically, a hyuman. However, he was not someone born in this world and spend his whole life in it.
        Given that they know his background, why do they think that hyuman will naturally band tgt to deal with "external" threat.

        Would u think that someone who is new to the company A will cut off their "secret deal" with the rivalry company B juz because he/she r just hired by A?
        They already know that he is someone from another world... So, why did they want to confine him in their views, standards.

        Besides, Limia had/intended to exploit kuzunoha/makoto in the first place. So, they shldn't blame on his act if their own intention is impure to begin with.

        That's only make Limia just being self-righteous...

      • I will agree that Hibiki originally came to the world for fun. And she might even be enjoying it now. But I also think she's come to have feelings for at least some of the hyumans, and so she takes it seriously.

        And we should all be so lucky to have a job we enjoy.

        That being said, I don't think it's self-righteous what Limia is feeling. It's about solidarity. (Hyumans vs. Demons). To say that they were hoping to "exploit" Kuzunoha is basically a business relationship (You do a favor for me, I do a favor for you).

      • Well if you only consider hibiki and joshua's side. How about bredda and other nobles, or maybe the majority? As i remember even in rostgard they view makoto is allied at the demon race before the attack of the mutants.

      • Think about his work force they are almost all dimi-human who he considers friends and family then add hyumans insulting, looking down on, and the abuses carried out against those dimi-humans not under the kuzunoha banner he sees it as a possibility that they will be treated badly when he is not around that was the point of Tomae's boot camp

    • I have enough of the "dem white people are evil" mentality.
      they won the past wars, and that's it.
      they are the 'winners' of history.
      nothing more.

      Why siding with hyumans make you evil?
      Why siding with hyumans make you stupid?
      Why "good" people have to side with demons?
      Why smart people have to side with demons?
      Why demons are so better people than hyumans?
      they took their land from other demi-humans, to be sure they wouldn't come back, they slaughtered every single person of the country. they slaughtered every children like fucking pigs. and now they intend to do the same thing again with hyumans.
      In what way do you think they are so much better than hyumans?
      what make you think hibiki should betray hyuman to side with demons and slaughter hyumans?
      What make you think without hyumans there would be no wars?

      you reproach hibiki to judge hyumans as good and demons as evil (when it was already proven that she didn't fought in this war for "justice" or "moral" but because she cared for limia's people), but you judge hyumans as evil and demons as good.
      You reproach hyumans to have prejudice against other races when you have prejudices against hyumans.

      Fucking hypocrisy and fucking "TOLERANT LEFT" mentality

      • I think most people see it this way since makoto is from a different world he should not side with humans since they view things differently then him. I persoanlly think makoto should just go and be a third party and bring both sides into a peace treaty. He has enough power for it and this way also benefits both sides since it will stop their views of total annihilation for either group and bring them to think we best not piss off the dude that can wioe out both sides for being idiots.

        • I were talking about makoto here but the unfunded hate hibiki and tomoki receive for helping hyumans.

          So you want makoto to come and threaten all country to wipe them out if they don't follow his orders. Okay.
          Now, what do you think about tomoki theatening other country with his nuke, if they don't come under his rule?
          (pretty much what he intend to do and what he did in the 'dream')

          you better not be part of the people criticizing the heroes for not acting "heroic" enough and be to authoritarian and extreme, because "that can wipe out both sides for being idiots" is very extreme and closer to 'villain' than 'hero'.

      • Im not. I dont like hibiki because there is not much of a good character there for me. Tomoki had the perfect setting to be my favorite character but the princess has corrupted him too much. If he was neutral then yeah threaten them. But he has gone crazy thanks to the princess. 😧

        • dunno, the only think we know about tomoki is that he was bullied for looking good.
          tho the "imperfect" part is interesting, since it will permit him to straighten through hardship.

    • First, the details of how Makoto saved Limia and Hibiki might be unknown to the people.
      Second, the moment the Buggess summoned the heroes to "her" world, not only did tell them the circumstances in her point of view, but also bought them with weapons and powers, showing them her "good" side, so unless something really fucking bad happens to them, they'll not be aware of the wickedness of this world.
      Lastly, the reason why hyumans would see the act of helping the demons as a betrayal: Even if the Buggess created all of the hyumanoids life forms of "her" planet, it was decided by her that ONLY the hyumans will be the dominant race, making the other races slaves of the hyumans, so they see the demi-hyumans in general with despise and would see whatever good interaction with them as preposterous, invidious, etc. Like how the Egyptian royalty saw the slaves... In any case, the origin of the hyuman-demon war, was because a young and inexperienced priestess of the Buggess, who was also the fiancee of a Crown Prince in some K-kingdom, got infatuated with some male demon, the people in the temple and the novelty got furious, they captured the demon, killed him, declared war against the demon race, and almost executed the priestess, if not for the Prince, reason for the other cities ordered the destruction of the K-kingdom, only with the couple been the sole hyumans survivors. As what they did after... That's for another time.

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